chinjh Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 I know this problem has been reported in a few closed threads before Nose up to high and on discord. But the A300 currently has this issue where it does not have the iconic nose down compression look like the A330 has. Currently i have tried moving the weights to the nose which causes bad CG but has resulted in not much compresson to the nose gear itself. So i guess this is much tied to a modelling. issue. Also this bug is not present on the xplane release of this product. Is there any timeline or promise or a small hint that this will be addressed in the future? This is probably the only remaining visual gripe left with this aircraft at the moment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cu206wrc Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 https://cdn-forum.inibuilds.com/monthly_2021_12/1965415469_A300_P_V2-2021-12-144_23_53PM.png.2efa321dd5aca07bd9aa73360fb9d01e.png On the X-plane version it is correct ! This an very important thing You can see it on the PFD https://www.airbus.com/en/who-we-are/company-history/commercial-aircraft-history/previous-generation-aircraft/a300-600/a300-600f Hope it will be not closed 🙄😌 best regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cu206wrc Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/227143 found a good Picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cu206wrc Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Here are some good Video the last one is nice !! best regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinjh Posted April 1 Author Share Posted April 1 9 hours ago, cu206wrc said: https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/227143 found a good Picture Thanks thats a really good closeup photo from a spotter. Did a small comparison yes there is something that needs to be changed on the nose gear. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripdog87 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 This one is tough while I do see what you folks mean in some of these photos where you can say, "yeah there is definitely a nose down" but some of these photos I have uploaded like the UPS and DHL it looks as though the fuselage is flush. I am torn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinjh Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Tripdog87 said: This one is tough while I do see what you folks mean in some of these photos where you can say, "yeah there is definitely a nose down" but some of these photos I have uploaded like the UPS and DHL it looks as though the fuselage is flush. I am torn... If i am not mistaken when the plane is on acceleration and deceleration at higher speeds the tendency for the nose gear to lift(floating look but wheels is still on the ground with lack of compression on the gear) is always around. The A330 is also somewhat affected by that. It is also present on the 738. For now i am hoping the devs could at least take a look at the nose gear modeling cause there is definitely something over there that is affecting the default stance of the aircraft on the ground. I am not sure if tinkering with the flight_model.cfg's contact point would visually bluff viewers with it as i dun really know how to edit this part. Unless some other people in the forum are more willing to play around with it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripdog87 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 It makes me wonder if it’s a contact point thing like in the fs9/p3d days? I definitely see what you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinjh Posted April 3 Author Share Posted April 3 11 hours ago, Tripdog87 said: It makes me wonder if it’s a contact point thing like in the fs9/p3d days? I definitely see what you are saying. On Community\inibuilds-aircraft-a300-600\SimObjects\Airplanes\inibuilds-aircraft-a306r and \Community\inibuilds-aircraft-a300-600\SimObjects\Airplanes\inibuilds-aircraft-a306f Both having a a file called flight_model.cfg inside there's a field called contact points i believe this is where certain parameters if adjusted correctly can effect certain parts of the plane visually. But note i do not know which points needs adjusting or even if correctly adjusting the correct points would effect. Cause currently the default nose gear itself has some modeling issue.MSFS SDK WHEELS AND CONTACT POINTS MSFS SDK flight_model.cfg - [CONTACT POINTS] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cu206wrc Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/10060621 On the PFD you can see it realy good hope this helps best regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cu206wrc Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 On the ini A310 it is correct ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinjh Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 9 hours ago, cu206wrc said: On the ini A310 it is correct ! Tried to take a look at the data values especially for contact points from the A310 but it being an official msfs aircraft means the flight_model.cfg file is encrypted by Asobo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinjh Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 (edited) Some interesting stuff. Played around the flight_model.cfg namely [CONTACT_POINTS] under point.0 = 1, 46.700022, 0, -15.574176, 2000, 0, 1.68, 65, 0.328, 2, 0.33, 22, 22, 0, 0, 0, 2 The 2 figures that has highlighted bold seems to effect the nosegear relative to the ground but unfortunately not for dampening nor compression. A high value used "1.23" and "1.25" than the bold default values results in lower nose gear which by right makes the nose down look there but this results in the nose gear sinking further into the ground. A lower level results in the nose gear gradually rising above the ground to a point it floats. Overall there just does not seem to be any compression with whatever weights added that effects the nosegear compression no matter what contact points have been amended. The default modeling of the nosegear itself appears to be tall in default. Another fishy area that i am suspecting is under static_pitch =-0.2 Edited April 16 by chinjh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinjh Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 Okay looks like i've found a little niche area without compromising too much. Also just did 2 circuits does not seem to have any CTD causing stuff. What to do Locate the flight_model.cfg file at Community\inibuilds-aircraft-a300-600\SimObjects\Airplanes Inside this directory there are 4 variants of the A300-600 each needing some changes to their respective cfg. Open flight_model.cfg as notepad for each aircraft Ammend the line under [CONTACT POINTS] Replace the following below. point.0 = 1, 46.700022, 0, -15.574176, 2000, 0, 1.68, 65, 1.0, 1.15, 0.85, 22, 22, 0, 0, 0, 2 Save what you have edited. Note it may still look off visually but at least the nosegear does not seem to sink so far into the ground now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinjh Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 Looks okay now. Still not nose down enough but its a compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinjh Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 Some further checks with adjusting the nose gear contact points. 1) Abrupt deceleration causes wonky bouncing. 2)low speed around 3knots to 0 knots causes the same wonky bounce. Currently adjusted the points to minimize the disturbances but it is still around Quote point.0 = 1, 46.700022, 0, -15.574176, 2000, 0, 1.68, 65, 0.96, 1.151, 0.86, 22, 22, 0, 0, 0, 2 Seems to be the only go to while we wait for the devs to push a proper update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstnj Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Any more recent acknowledgements of this? I won't say "this is an easy fix" because I don't know what other effects this has on things like the flight model...but if its working in the 310 I'd think a similar "fix" can be done for the 300 🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinjh Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 8 hours ago, jstnj said: Any more recent acknowledgements of this? I won't say "this is an easy fix" because I don't know what other effects this has on things like the flight model...but if its working in the 310 I'd think a similar "fix" can be done for the 300 🙏 I did 2 long sectors and 1 very short 1 so far no issues apart from the annoying very minor bouncing compression on the nose gear when decelerating from 3knots to 0 knots with brake pedal applied. I am getting a bit frustrated cause this was logged for 3 months without any patch issued to address it and i ended up having to eyeball a self DIY fix on the contact points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexair Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 On 4/18/2024 at 11:36 PM, chinjh said: I am getting a bit frustrated cause this was logged for 3 months without any patch issued to address it and i ended up having to eyeball a self DIY fix on the contact points. +1 !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cu206wrc Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Nice Video and view. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstnj Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstnj Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 @richboy2307 any chance this can get triaged? Seems like an easy win and a minor change to the visual model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinjh Posted May 24 Author Share Posted May 24 With SU15 out, is there any updates on the way and is this also being pushed for that build? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstnj Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 not a lot of movement / official acknowledgment from iniBuilds in the A300 forum in a few weeks 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richboy2307 Posted May 27 Share Posted May 27 Thanks, as reported previously, it is logged for the team to look at. The currently released A300 build was already made with SU15 in mind and tested with SU15beta as such. However things can change sometimes with public release of SU. so we will be giving it another look. Not specifically about this issue, but updates in general are planned and will be coming. Cannot provide any firm time estimates on them. The team has been awfully busy behind the scenes but is working to get caught up on all the issues and updates for products accordingly. Appreciate your patience and understanding. Thanks! 1 Vrishabh Sehgal ( @Richboy2307 ) Community Team Member & Tester IniBuilds Ltd. | inibuilds.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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