Some NPAs do not include the THR WP in the procedure as the MAP is located earlier, but the iniBuilds A380 always forces the THR to be part of the procedure.

This has already been reported in the A340 and A350.

NG navdata used.

Could you clarify which NPAs you're talking about? For:

• RNAV/RNP approaches generally feature a runway point, though chart labeling depends on regional regulators (e.g., RW##* or a 5-letter named waypoint). But

• Non-precision approaches like VOR or NDB may lack a dedicated runway point based on where the ground facility is located.

Specifying the exact approach would help clarify, please

4 hours ago, OxkyGThaib said:

Could you clarify which NPAs you're talking about? For:

• RNAV/RNP approaches generally feature a runway point, though chart labeling depends on regional regulators (e.g., RW##* or a 5-letter named waypoint). But

• Non-precision approaches like VOR or NDB may lack a dedicated runway point based on where the ground facility is located.

Specifying the exact approach would help clarify, please

LFMN RNPA04L.

Hi, mate

Sorry for the late reply, I just checked the LFMN RNP-A RW04L.

I believe you are seeing this:

ON the ND => (Pic 01)

On the MCDU => (Pic 02)

And I believe you are asking why the runway of LFMN04L is exist in MCDU, isn't it, @spottersim ?

Let's have a look at the charts:

(Chart 1, 12-3 RNP-A RW04L/R)

The Procedures are there, after MN04A W/P, it goes to MN504 W/P under the dashed line depicting a Go-Around Route to NERAS. And you are wondering why LFMN04L is there on the MCDU (as depicted on the pict 02)?!

But here's a thing, RNP-A/B/C on the procedures IS A DIFFERENT Procedures comparing with RNP-X/Y/Z.

RNP-A/B/C is a COMBINED RNP Approach and Circling (Visual Approach), so it is goes visual approaches to the runway. And MN504 is the MAP (Missed Approach Point, a point to be made as a Decision Placement to decide wheter to continue to land or Go-Around).

So, After MN504, if you want to continue approach, please refer to Chart 12-3A that contains Visual Guidance Approach after MN504 W/P:

This Chart => (Chart 2, 12-3A VPT RW04L/R)

See how there's a box contains explanation with thick word that refering us to charts 1. Also on the Chart 1, see the on the Top-Right Box, there's Reference Box to 12-3A. So Chart 12-3 and 12-3A are correlated to each other. So the Charts 12-3A is visual description/prescription of Visual Portion of the RNP-A procedures.

Based on that, it is normal to have Runway on MCDU, you can compare it with LDA-X/Y/Z RJTT/HND Runway 22, it is almost identical between each other.

I hope it's help to understand the MCDU Plan for Approach.

Cheers!

19 hours ago, OxkyGThaib said:

Hi, mate

Sorry for the late reply, I just checked the LFMN RNP-A RW04L.

I believe you are seeing this:

ON the ND => (Pic 01)

On the MCDU => (Pic 02)

And I believe you are asking why the runway of LFMN04L is exist in MCDU, isn't it, @spottersim ?

Let's have a look at the charts:

(Chart 1, 12-3 RNP-A RW04L/R)

The Procedures are there, after MN04A W/P, it goes to MN504 W/P under the dashed line depicting a Go-Around Route to NERAS. And you are wondering why LFMN04L is there on the MCDU (as depicted on the pict 02)?!

But here's a thing, RNP-A/B/C on the procedures IS A DIFFERENT Procedures comparing with RNP-X/Y/Z.

RNP-A/B/C is a COMBINED RNP Approach and Circling (Visual Approach), so it is goes visual approaches to the runway. And MN504 is the MAP (Missed Approach Point, a point to be made as a Decision Placement to decide wheter to continue to land or Go-Around).

So, After MN504, if you want to continue approach, please refer to Chart 12-3A that contains Visual Guidance Approach after MN504 W/P:

This Chart => (Chart 2, 12-3A VPT RW04L/R)

See how there's a box contains explanation with thick word that refering us to charts 1. Also on the Chart 1, see the on the Top-Right Box, there's Reference Box to 12-3A. So Chart 12-3 and 12-3A are correlated to each other. So the Charts 12-3A is visual description/prescription of Visual Portion of the RNP-A procedures.

Based on that, it is normal to have Runway on MCDU, you can compare it with LDA-X/Y/Z RJTT/HND Runway 22, it is almost identical between each other.

I hope it's help to understand the MCDU Plan for Approach.

Cheers!

At RJTT, RJTT22 is not part of the LDAX22 Approach (1:28)

Edited yesterday at 07:33 PM1 day by spottersim

It shows the runway graphically, but does not connect the approach to it. Otherwise, the aircraft would turn into the wrong direction when initiating a missed approach at MDA in IMC.

https://youtu.be/rugPvAqiKzs?si=hUCZJO7Do_QugG06&t=1737

Ejets: https://youtu.be/thRBoggrqKA?si=25n4RXsVkeBnJ-Q3&t=419

Couldn't find any airbus ND footage during the approach.

On 10/25/2026 at 8:42 PM, spottersim said:

Ejets: https://youtu.be/thRBoggrqKA?si=25n4RXsVkeBnJ-Q3&t=419

Couldn't find any airbus ND footage during the approach.

Trust me, mate. This is blow my mind😓

I found out quite different how an aircraft handle this type of approach, see the differences:

How TFDi MD11 handle this type of Approach =>

How JustFLight Fokker 100 handle the approach =>

It is identical on how IniBuilds depict the Approach. But quite different with how Boeing depict the Approach, see:

BlueBird Boeing 757 =>

And how PMDG do that Approach =>

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I don't know how in the real life handling this Approaches. But for me, as for now, I agree with how IniBuilds represent the LFMN RNP-A 04L/R.

This is quite mind blowing for me.....