Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

iniBuilds Forum

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

The Most Buggy VNAV I've Ever Seen

Featured Replies

I don't know how this passed testing, but on the current patch, the L1011 wildly changes the EPR on TM/VNAV climb and the aircraft will literally go into a 1000ft or greater descent during VNAV climb to catch the speed it's trying to climb at. Not only that, once the aircraft is level in cruise, it descends AND climbs anywhere from 500 to 1000 feet as it tries to maintain speed (I guess??). It literally cannot maintain level flight. Guys, this is bad. The TM mode is completely unusable.

  • Author

I decided to take another crack at it and see if I had messed something up, or if my moza AB9 was causing issues, but no it's not. Here's a screenshot of a 2000ft descent during the climb phase... My Moza software has all FFB trimming and autopilot following off, so it's not adding input to the aircraft while it's in autopilot.

20260705153000_1.jpg

To my eye, this actually appears to showcase two problems with the aircraft systems that I've previously noticed.

(1) Either the stabilizer trim is too slow to respond to necessary inputs commanded by the autopilot, the autopilot simply commands these inputs too gradually, or the autopilot starts commanding these inputs too late; it might be a combination of all three. This also results in, for example, the aircraft overshooting the 250-knots-below-10,000-ft limit by 10 knots or more in the acceleration phase of climbout, just after takeoff.

(2) When using the GPS for navigation, the GPS commands turns too late, and the autopilot usually doesn't seem to command enough bank angle at speeds of more than ~200 knots to make said turns. These issues combined result in the aircraft overshooting the turns, as seen in your screenshot above (note the right bank the aircraft is making in an attempt to get back on the GPS track). The sharper the turn and the higher the speed, the worse this problem appears to be.

The descent here is not something I've seen before, but it could be due to problems with the flight model, which I seem to recall the iniBuilds team is in the process of adjusting based on previous feedback from other forum users. Figuring out how to change the flight model in ways that make it realistic in all phases of flight is quite difficult though; I've previously made a flight model mod for another aircraft, so I know how tedious and time-consuming it can be to figure out what to change and by how much. In my case, it involved a lot of trial and error. So I hope iniBuilds will have those changes made and released soon, but I'm not counting on it.

Edited by zbrainlezz

Exactly the same here. I'm just going to make sure I don't have any conflicting control bindings, but I'm about to uninstall.

Create an account or sign in to comment

Account

Navigation

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.