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How exactly do I engage the ILS or LOC for an automatic landing in the L-1011?

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So far, I’ve only managed to get the ILS working successfully at ZUCK with the SS3D version.

I cannot activate the ILS at any other airport — including iniBuilds’ VHHH, EGLL, and third-party RKSI, among others.

I’ve completed all the steps that I can did: entered the ILS frequency and magnetic runway heading, switched to RADIO mode, used HDG to line up with the runway, and descended below the glideslope.

Yet at the vast majority of airports, the ILS and LOC buttons simply won’t light up no matter what I do.

I want to figure out the reason for this issue, please help me.

Edited by Wonhee

Have you try this? :)
If you are using the Garmin GPS, change from GPS to VLOC using the CDI button.
OR
Create a binding to the below to toggle it.
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The rest of what you are doing is perfect - sometimes the GPS/VLOC swap over and make the HSI not respond to RADIO.
I hope thats all it is :)

Windows11Pro, Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900KF, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060Ti, 64GB RAM.

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3 hours ago, RyanAlmeida95 said:

Have you try this? :)
If you are using the Garmin GPS, change from GPS to VLOC using the CDI button.
OR
Create a binding to the below to toggle it.
image.png

The rest of what you are doing is perfect - sometimes the GPS/VLOC swap over and make the HSI not respond to RADIO.
I hope thats all it is :)

I flew a leg from RCTP to VHHH, but it didn't help at all.

My ILS and LOC buttons still pop back up and turn off immediately after I press them.

I can't get into the LOC ARM or ILS ARM state at all, so I still can't engage the ILS.

At VHHH what runway and freq were you using? I just landed ILS 07C 109.30/074' and everything worked fine. Even on the ground I've used 07R 110.90 and been able to select ILS or LOC.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HoNRWNIHta0

When you have the ILS tuned does the HSI display as expected and DME show?
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Windows11Pro, Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900KF, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060Ti, 64GB RAM.

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2 hours ago, RyanAlmeida95 said:

在VHHHH你用的是哪个跑道和频率?我刚刚降落了ILS 07C 109:30/074',一切正常。即使在地面上,我也用过07R 110.90,能选择ILS或LOC。

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HoNRWNIHta0
调校
ILS后,HSI显示正常,DME显示吗?
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Due to today's wind direction, I'm using Runway 25C with the frequency 109.30 and heading 254°, exactly as shown on the aeronautical chart.

I can't get the ILS and LOC buttons to light up/activate at all, let alone have other related systems work properly.

Interesting, I just did the IGS 13 into Kai Tak from another flight and then zipped back up to throw (literally 😅) myself into the ILS 25C after reading your last post and everything worked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9-H42bWBPY
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So just to check , You have 109.30 and RADIO selected?
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The ILS shows a DME on the VOR/DME Indicator?
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The HSI shows the correct course and the course bar has moved either left or right with no flags?
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You have at least one FD on?
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Edited by RyanAlmeida95
Grammatical error

Windows11Pro, Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900KF, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060Ti, 64GB RAM.

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1 hour ago, RyanAlmeida95 said:

Interesting, I just did the IGS 13 into Kai Tak from another flight and then zipped back up to throw (literally 😅) myself into the ILS 25C after reading your last post and everything worked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9-H42bWBPY
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确认一下,你选了109:30和RADIO吗?
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ILS在VOR/DME指示器上显示DME吗?
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HSI显示的航向是正确的,航向条要么向左或向右移动,没有任何旗帜?
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你至少开着一个FD吗?
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I've confirmed I entered 109.30 and switched the radio mode correctly. Both FD have been switched on since before takeoff.

In your video, once you press the ILS and LOC buttons, they stay illuminated, and it shows ILS ARM or LOC ARM until fully capturing and engaging the ILS/LOC signal.

But on my end, the ILS and LOC buttons pop off and turn off immediately right after I press them. Because of this, my VOR/DME indicator and HSI won’t respond or engage with the ILS at all.

The only place I can successfully capture and engage the ILS just like in your video is at SS3D Chongqing Airport (ZUCK).

The L1011 doesn’t have a separate Navigraph data folder to install navigation data like the A350 does.

Could this be caused by an issue with my Navigraph navigation data? I installed both nav-base and nav-jepp through Navigraph Hub.

Edited by Wonhee

NavData doesn't have an impact on radio navigation in this case where the sims navdata is up to date.

3 hours ago, Wonhee said:

But on my end, the ILS and LOC buttons pop off and turn off immediately right after I press them. Because of this, my VOR/DME indicator and HSI won’t respond or engage with the ILS at all.

Just to clarify, the VOR/DME indicator and HSI work independently to each other and from the ILS/LOC buttons. Regardless of the ILS/LOC buttons, the VOR/DME and HSI should show information to the radio within distance.

If you are on the ground at VHHH and tune 109.30 in radio mode, does the HSI and VOR/DME show a response as per the above screenshots?

5 hours ago, RyanAlmeida95 said:

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5 hours ago, RyanAlmeida95 said:

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  1. DME showing distance (NORM has to be selected on nav radio)

  2. The course bar has moved wither left or right?

Can you upload a video?

Windows11Pro, Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900KF, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060Ti, 64GB RAM.

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13 minutes ago, RyanAlmeida95 said:

NavData doesn't have an impact on radio navigation in this case where the sims navdata is up to date.

Just to clarify, the VOR/DME indicator and HSI work independently to each other and from the ILS/LOC buttons. Regardless of the ILS/LOC buttons, the VOR/DME and HSI should show information to the radio within distance.

If you are on the ground at VHHH and tune 109.30 in radio mode, does the HSI and VOR/DME show a response as per the above screenshots?

  1. DME showing distance (NORM has to be selected on nav radio)

  2. The course bar has moved wither left or right?

Can you upload a video?

Then these two standalone instruments are definitely not working either.

The DME always shows 0000, and the HSI stops functioning once INS navigation ends.

However, after activating the VOR, the HSI displays a straight line pointing toward the 254 heading.

I’m really sorry, but uploading videos to YouTube isn’t possible from my current region.

Ok, it doesn't sound like an ILS/LOC button issue.

Can you upload a screenshot of the instrument panel including the glaresheild?

Do you use this aircraft with the GPS?

Windows11Pro, Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900KF, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060Ti, 64GB RAM.

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8 hours ago, RyanAlmeida95 said:

Ok, it doesn't sound like an ILS/LOC button issue.

Can you upload a screenshot of the instrument panel including the glaresheild?

Do you use this aircraft with the GPS?

I've recorded a complete full flight along the VMMC–VHHH (Runway 25C) route.

I uploaded the video to YouTube using some alternative methods. My recording setup and procedures weren’t very standardized or professional, and the video might be a bit longer than usual, so please bear with me.

Also, could you help me figure out why the ILS approach was unavailable?

As pointed out, the radio freq data is not making it to the VOR/DME or HSI for some reason.

Can you try the first thing again with the TOGGLE GPS DRIVES NAV1 whilst on the ground at an VHHH tuned to an ILS freq in RADIO and see if the instruments change?

On 5/3/2026 at 12:16 PM, RyanAlmeida95 said:

Have you try this? :)
If you are using the Garmin GPS, change from GPS to VLOC using the CDI button.
OR
Create a binding to the below to toggle it.
image.png

The rest of what you are doing is perfect - sometimes the GPS/VLOC swap over and make the HSI not respond to RADIO.
I hope thats all it is :)

Maybe try selecting GPS option from the PFB and select CDI to change over to VLOC.. then turn the GPS off again in the PFB to see it that changes it over.

Windows11Pro, Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900KF, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060Ti, 64GB RAM.

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1 hour ago, RyanAlmeida95 said:

As pointed out, the radio freq data is not making it to the VOR/DME or HSI for some reason.

Can you try the first thing again with the TOGGLE GPS DRIVES NAV1 whilst on the ground at an VHHH tuned to an ILS freq in RADIO and see if the instruments change?

Maybe try selecting GPS option from the PFB and select CDI to change over to VLOC.. then turn the GPS off again in the PFB to see it that changes it over.

Actually, the HSI flickered at around 9:26 in my video — that was me pressing my custom-bound shortcut key.

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1 hour ago, RyanAlmeida95 said:

As pointed out, the radio freq data is not making it to the VOR/DME or HSI for some reason.

Can you try the first thing again with the TOGGLE GPS DRIVES NAV1 whilst on the ground at an VHHH tuned to an ILS freq in RADIO and see if the instruments change?

Maybe try selecting GPS option from the PFB and select CDI to change over to VLOC.. then turn the GPS off again in the PFB to see it that changes it over.

I relaunched the game and spawned on Runway 25C. I confirmed I was in VLOC mode, but none of the other data showed up at all. It seems entering the ILS frequency doesn’t load any additional ILS information for me, so my ILS button still won’t light up normally.

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Im not sure what to add 🫠
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkGpmhAK8FM

Although I don't think it will make a difference, Is Navigraph up to date for the sim?
Have you updated to the Tristar to V1.0.4?
Does the radio freq work on another aircraft in the same location?
Have you tried any other approach elsewhere in the world to check if the RADIO is working?

Edited by RyanAlmeida95

Windows11Pro, Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-14900KF, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060Ti, 64GB RAM.

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14 minutes ago, RyanAlmeida95 said:

Im not sure what to add 🫠
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkGpmhAK8FM

Although I don't think it will make a difference, Is Navigraph up to date for the sim?
Have you updated to the Tristar to V1.0.4?
Does the radio freq work on another aircraft in the same location?
Have you tried any other approach elsewhere in the world to check if the RADIO is working?

I’m genuinely shocked that all your gauges respond as soon as you enter the ILS frequency, while absolutely nothing happens on my end.

Earlier today, I landed on Runway 25C using the Aerosoft A340-600. After pressing the APPR button, the entire ILS system engaged and started working.

As for the L-1011(1.0.4), the only airport where I’ve ever successfully activated ILS is ZUCK (samscene3d). At that time, I didn’t even check whether I was in VLOC mode. That’s because I’ve never turned on GPS or INS+GPS in the PFB before — I’ve always been using pure INS mode only.

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57 minutes ago, RyanAlmeida95 said:

Im not sure what to add 🫠
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkGpmhAK8FM

Although I don't think it will make a difference, Is Navigraph up to date for the sim?
Have you updated to the Tristar to V1.0.4?
Does the radio freq work on another aircraft in the same location?
Have you tried any other approach elsewhere in the world to check if the RADIO is working?

I’ve now recorded a new video, where I tested five airports:

ZSPD (Shanghai) ✕

ZBAA (Beijing) ✓

ZUCK (Chongqing) ✓

ZGGG (Guangzhou) ✓

VHHH (Hong Kong) ✕

Besides, EGLL, EGKK and RKSI are also among the airports I’ve tried where the ILS still can’t connect.

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2 hours ago, RyanAlmeida95 said:

Im not sure what to add 🫠
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkGpmhAK8FM

Although I don't think it will make a difference, Is Navigraph up to date for the sim?
Have you updated to the Tristar to V1.0.4?
Does the radio freq work on another aircraft in the same location?
Have you tried any other approach elsewhere in the world to check if the RADIO is working?

I’ve finally found the root cause: Navigraph.

Navigraph has released two separate sets of navigation data for FS20 and FS24 respectively.

FS20 uses navigraph-navdata and navigraph-navdata-base.

FS24 uses navigraph-nav-base and navigraph-nav-jepp.

I still have FS20 installed on my computer. To save SSD space before, I set FS20 and FS24 to share the same Community folder. That’s why all four navigation data packages ended up inside it together.

I’ve now disabled the two FS20 nav data packages in FS24, and everything is working properly again. ILS is now fully functional at VHHH and EGLL.

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