Engines sound

[Swisspilot1986]

I put the master cursor and the engine one to the max setting. However, engines are too quiet outside and inside. What really disappointing is the engines sound from cockpit and business galley (so every places in the front of the engines). We barely hear the typical roaring sound of the CFM even with a full sound up. Fenix does it very well sorry. In addition, I was seating in biz galley as a cabin crew for 3 years in this machine. I know it.

[DroneSim]

1 hour ago, Swisspilot1986 said:

Fenix does it very well sorry.

well the engines in the A340 are a little further away from the front of the aircraft

[DeeJay]

First, congratiulations for a really good aircraft. I've just flown from FRA to BOS without a showstopper like a CTD or similar. Flew very nicely and smooth on FPS.

But my far the biggest (and so far my only) thing I'm really disappointed of, are the sounds:

1) Engine sounds: As mentioned above, it just doesn't sound like an A340 from the inside. It's not about volume. I know you don't hear the engines too loud from the cockpit. But it's about the typical high pitch whine that is completely missing, and the typical roaring sound of the A340, that just sounds different. The idle sounds are fit in a little better, but still sounds quite strange when spooling up. In this matter, I find even the sounds of the free A330 matched a lot better.

2) Touchdown sound: Your A330 has been the first aircraft ever, where you could really feel the famous "double" touchdown of the main wheels of the A330/340 series: First, a light rattle when the aft main wheels touch down, and then a firm bump sound and a more intensive rattle when the front wheels of the main gear touch. I loved that so much in the A330, as it added so much immersion. Could you pleeeeease add this feature for the A340, too, especially as the knowledge of how to do that, seems to be there. That would add so much immersion while landing. Because at the moment, there is just one single "Boom" when landing the A340. Thanks.

Edited October 7 by DeeJay

[Michael Bonar]

3 hours ago, Swisspilot1986 said:

I put the master cursor and the engine one to the max setting. However, engines are too quiet outside and inside. What really disappointing is the engines sound from cockpit and business galley (so every places in the front of the engines). We barely hear the typical roaring sound of the CFM even with a full sound up. Fenix does it very well sorry. In addition, I was seating in biz galley as a cabin crew for 3 years in this machine. I know it.

In Settings, Audio Settings, drag the Environment slider to zero.  This improves the internal and external sounds.  However, I suspect this eliminates gear touch down sounds as a side effect.  More testing required.

[Tomfkxd]

55 minutes ago, Michael Bonar said:

In Settings, Audio Settings, drag the Environment slider to zero.  This improves the internal and external sounds.  However, I suspect this eliminates gear touch down sounds as a side effect.  More testing required.

 

1 hour ago, DeeJay said:

First, congratiulations for a really good aircraft. I've just flown from FRA to BOS without a showstopper like a CTD or similar. Flew very nicely and smooth on FPS.

But my far the biggest (and so far my only) thing I'm really disappointed of, are the sounds:

1) Engine sounds: As mentioned above, it just doesn't sound like an A340 from the inside. It's not about volume. I know you don't hear the engines too loud from the cockpit. But it's about the typical high pitch whine that is completely missing, and the typical roaring sound of the A340, that just sounds different. The idle sounds are fit in a little better, but still sounds quite strange when spooling up. In this matter, I find even the sounds of the free A330 matched a lot better.

2) Touchdown sound: Your A330 has been the first aircraft ever, where you could really feel the famous "double" touchdown of the main wheels of the A330/340 series: First, a light rattle when the aft main wheels touch down, and then a firm bump sound and a more intensive rattle when the front wheels of the main gear touch. I loved that so much in the A330, as it added so much immersion. Could you pleeeeease add this feature for the A340, too, especially as the knowledge of how to do that, seems to be there. That would add so much immersion while landing. Because at the moment, there is just one single "Boom" when landing the A340. Thanks.

Hey guys,

Environmental mixing has been adjusted (reduced in intensity) and touchdown sounds bumped for the next build. 🙂 That double touchdown will be far more prominent.

[Swisspilot1986]

Dragging the Environment slider to zero actually helps to be close-up of the reality but there is still a lot of tweaks to be conducted: 

 

[skypara]

I’m very sorry, no disrespect to the work by E19 guys, but IMHO engines sounds are far from the real aircraft. Flight deck and cabin. I’ve flown A LOT on this aircraft and I can tell. I hope I’ll get backed up by others and eventually the sounds get overhauled. For me the soundstage quality is a go/no go for any addon. 

[Swisspilot1986]

indeed, there is no "A320 feel" when engines spool up. It hears like a generic airliner sound.

[Swisspilot1986]

Does anybody know if it's possible to use the engines sound of the A340 from LVFR onto the IniBuilds one?

[Swisspilot1986]

despite the 2nd update engines sound is still away from reality, my opinion

[echo19tyler]

16 hours ago, Swisspilot1986 said:

despite the 2nd update engines sound is still away from reality, my opinion

What is "far from reality" to you? What's missing?

[Swisspilot1986]

Ask Boris maybe he can help. 

[echo19tyler]

1 hour ago, Swisspilot1986 said:

Ask Boris maybe he can help. 

I talk to Boris a lot, he said it actually sounds good. I was asking *you* for more detailed feedback, not just "far from reality," as that is very subjective.

[Swisspilot1986]

I don't want to be rude despite I feel angry and disappointed. I've only a vague feeling to be on board like before in my career. Indeed, I used this real aircraft nearly at a full time during 3 years in the cabin and sometimes in the cockpit for take offs and cruise. I barely feel and hear this typical CFM sound (with more bass and "stereo sound" as it's 4 of them compared with the A320) despite the 2nd update made it a little better. Even this one from LVFR make me more happy but its aircraft is just bad. 

You're right. This is subjective. In addition, sound isn't my job ans words can't express a feeling entirely. If I'm the only one to complain I'll ask for a refund and it'll be fine, too.

[skypara]

I do agree with SP1986, and I can attribute my own experience to be nearly the same as his, I’ve been cabin crew for three years flying on B777, A330 and 343/345. My concern for A343 is specifically the artificial feel the current engine sounds produce, remind me of a vacuum cleaner rather than genuine jet turbine rumble. But at the end of the day we can all agree that when it comes to sounds it’s all subjective and opinions may vary. I hope u don’t get me wrong, the sound package is very good, but it can be worked on to become near perfection 

Edited Wednesday at 05:43 PM by skypara

[Cupra1903]

I’d like to share some detailed observations about the sound environment of the A340. Overall, the sound set isn’t bad, but it feels incomplete and could really benefit from more depth, variation, and attention to detail. Hopefully this feedback helps the team refine it further.

Cockpit

• The overhead switch sounds (fuel pumps, packs) are very generic and don’t match the mechanical "press + release/click" feel these types of switches have in reality. There should be a short mechanical sound when pressed, and another when released or latched.

• The tablet (pulling out/stowing) sound also feels very artificial and lacks realism and ist not Airbus like

• After connecting to the gate and shutting down the APU and packs, the cockpit becomes almost completly silent. This doesn`t feel realistic, there should still be subtle ambient and environmental variation.

• The thrust lever detent clicks are monotone and lack variation. On real Airbus cockpits, those clicks are distinct and contribute a lot to immersion.

• In general, there`s a noticeable lack of spatial or 3D depth. Sounds feel "flat"  you don’t really get the impression of sitting in a physical cockpit where sound comes from different directions. Even wind noise doesn’t seem to have any spatial dimension or stereo image.

• Also, compared to the Fenix, the CFM56 engine sounds inside the cockpit are missing the fine dynamic variations. In the Fenix, you can clearly hear the changing tones and crisp transitions of the CFM56, even below takeoff power , the airflow, whine, and tonal shifts are all layered and alive.
  In the iniBuilds A340, however, it feels like there are only two main states: idle growl or takeoff buzzsaw, with little in between. Those mid-range tonal variations are a big part of what gives the cockpit audio life and realism.
  Additionally, the engiine spool behavior itself doesn’t seem entirely accurate,  the way the engines spool up from idle and how they behave in higher N1 ranges feels off compared to real CFM56 characteristics. Of course, that`s not directly part of Echo19`s work, but since the audio follows the engine model, the sound naturally ends up being affected by it.

Cabin

• The cabin soundscape also lacks 3D presence. It feels mono and doesn’t convey the sense of being inside a large cabin four-engine aircraft.

• During takeoff, there’s no noticeable low-frequency engine growl from the rear cabin. That deep resonance only appears around 250 kts suggesting it’s linked to airspeed rather than actual engine power. In other words, the rear engine sound seems disconnected from engine state.

• Walking from the front to the back of the cabin doesn’t sound natural. In reality, there’s a gradual transition:

• In the front, higher-pitched wind noise dominates.
• Toward the middle, low-frequency resonance from the engines mixes in,  you can feel the subtle not 100% synchronized resonance of four engines.
• In the rear, a deeper engine growl combines with wind and airframe noise.This sense of progression and spatial layering is missing right now.

Reference Level 

We’ve grown used to the kind of detail and sound layering seen in highend products for example:

• Aerosoft CRJ with Boris Sound

• PMDG 777 with Boris Sound

• Leonardo MD-82 with immersive audio

• Fenix 

• Ifly

If you have access to those, I`d really suggest a quick comparison:

• Sit in the cockpit or walk through the cabin during different phases of flight.

• Listen to how the sounds evolve, how tonal balance shifts, and how each system or surface has its own distinct signature.

• Then experience the same scenario in the A340 (and A350).

The difference in tonal depth, variation, the crispness and how the soundscape evolves through the cabin is immediately noticeable.
This isn’t meant as criticism more as a benchmark. These examples show how much immersion can be achieved when every lever, switch, and ambient layer has its own unique sound character.
The A340 could absolutely reach that same level with further refinement, the base is there, it just needs that extra touch of depth and realism.

I understand that YouTube recordings aren’t technically reliable references due to compression and poor mic quality.
However, even those simple recordings often convey a sound character that feels closer to the real acoustic experience - the raw,  spatial, and dynamic impression you get when being on or near the aircraft.

The current mix, while technically clean and high-end, sometimes feels a bit too processed or studio-balanced, missing that natural acoustic "life" and sense of space that real-world sound carries.

Please take this as constructive feedback, not a complaint. The aircraft is already great, with a more nuanced soundscape, it could become truly outstanding in terms of immersion.

Edited Thursday at 08:58 PM by Cupra1903