Please fix the Rotation.

[nopixar]

As per title. There have been numerous reports of the "control response" on the rotation of this aircraft dotted around here and discord, and with good reason. Regardless of weight the aircraft leaps into the air with the tinyest input. You've said in other posts its been tested by pilots and is accurate. I beg to differ. You've also stated in other posts that we should provide evidence for inaccuracies and that the inaccuracies we percieve are "placeobo" Again, I beg to differ.  So ill include as much info as possible.

MFS2020

Both 900 and 1000s do it

Turbulence LOW

Please see attached photo (Real World)

Please pay close attention to the SSOI (Side Stick Order Indicator) box circled in yellow on the PFD above. This is the initial input for a nice controlled gradual 3 deg second rotation at VR. As you can see its somewhere between 40-50% pitch deflection which is normal for Rotation law equiped aircraft (the 350 is one of them) somewhere around 5+ deg mark on the PFD  is a good start for a nice controlled 3deg per second roation....While not A350 I do have experience on newer air frames like the 320/321 NEO family. The rotation law (is the same for both). When rotating an aircraft with rotation law the deflection you make commands a rotation rate as opposed to G load or Elevator deflection. Can you clarify why the INI350 rotates like a fighter jet with almost no deflection? THS setting doesnt come into it as long as its set properly the "feel" should be fairly uniform. You need a fairly signifacant/deliberate pull to acheive 3 deg second and can adjust the deflection as you see fit to either increase or decrease the rate. This is modelled pretty nicelly on both the FBW 320/380 which is freeware. Its also modelled on the Toliss/FF350. 

Another video. Again notice how much back pressure is needed to acheive the desired rotation rate (50% roughly) Pulling this much on the INI350 would result a Farbrough airshow style departure.

Also the INI350 seems to get airborn with an unaturaly flat attitude (somewhere around 4deg) Again not represtative of the plane, or any plane.

I suspect you havent modelled rotation law at all which is why the aircraft leaps into the air with almost no deflection whatsover. Is it even modelled? If not please consider adding it. Currently it takes off like a Cessna 172. Sometimes it even starts rotation by itself. I know some people might not care but when its being marketed as a faithfull rendition of a 350 would be nice if it shared some of its fundemental flying characteristics.

Thanks

 

Edited March 4 by nopixar

[Phoven]

Strongly agree, the handling feel is far less realistic than advertised, hope it can be improved later.

Edited March 4 by Phoven

[turkintheus]

I agree, often aircraft wants to rotate on it's own with correct trim setting (2024)

[jez481]

I agree, the aircraft rotates on its own in 2020 even with the correct trim set. To me that's not right?

Then there's the huge thud / crash as I lift off the main wheels!?

[turkintheus]

1 hour ago, jez481 said:

I agree, the aircraft rotates on its own in 2020 even with the correct trim set. To me that's not right?

Then there's the huge thud / crash as I lift off the main wheels!?

Yeah it should not auto rotate, but the thud is there IRL believe it or not lol

[jez481]

The thud as the aircraft lifts off is real!?! I know they said the wheels retracting was loud this is as I rotate off the runway?

If that's true it must be unsettling for the passengers 🤣 but good to know thanks.