weather radar

[Andrea C.]

Good evening everyone,
since I updated the weather radar no longer works. Or rather, it no longer updates when the range is changed. The initial image remains. If I turn it off and on again it no longer works

Thanks

Andrea

[Andrea C.]

I tried the weather radar better in a rainy area: it shows the rain areas. Actually when you enter the green or yellow area it rains but I don't understand how it works: it seems that the range for the weather radar doesn't work. If I change the range from 15 30 60 etc the representation of the rain areas remains the same and it's not even clear which range it corresponds to. Certainly very close, even less than 15 nm I think. If someone can kindly explain to me how the weather radar works after the update I would be very grateful. In previous versions it worked normally as in all other aircraft both by default and payware (for those that support it). When you increased or decreased the range the rain areas adapted to the selected range

Thanks

Andrea

[Andrea C.]

Hi everyone,
I see that no one answers so I deduce that your weather radar works well... Can you confirm this?

Thanks
Andrea

[Orlaam]

It's hit or miss from what I've seen

[Crabby]

The shortcomings of the sim (ASOBO/Microsoft issue) related to the data that is available to create a weather radar are well known.  Just be aware that those that talk about how this radar or that radar works or should work, do not know what a weather radar is, how it works and what it should display at the various tilts/gains/settings.  They see green, red and yellow blobs on a screen and think "wow this works".  They are wrong.  

[Andrea C.]

yes, i am aware that the asobo weather radar is mostly cosmetic and does not work like a real weather radar. What i was saying is that after the update it does not even do that on the a300 anymore. Before the update it worked like the default asobo aircraft one, after the update it behaves as described in my first post. i just wanted to know if this "new" behavior is also noticed by you or if it works exactly as before for you.

thanks

Andrea

[pmplayer]

But this Asobo weather Radar is better then none, at least for me..

cheers 😉

[richboy2307]

On 7/30/2024 at 11:45 PM, Andrea C. said:

i just wanted to know if this "new" behavior is also noticed by you or if it works exactly as before for you.

Hi, apologies for delayed response. I missed this report initially. Been a hectic few weeks.

On 7/29/2024 at 12:22 AM, Andrea C. said:

It no longer updates when the range is changed. The initial image remains.

Yes I can confirm this bug, the drawn WXR image does not seem to be updating with selected range on ND.

On 7/29/2024 at 12:22 AM, Andrea C. said:

If I turn it off and on again it no longer works

However, I'm not able to reproduce this issue. Can you confirm the steps taken for you to notice this? I tried changing systems (1, 2 or off, then back to either), and turning the mode select knob (TEST, WX, TURB, MAP) and was still able to have the WXR work. Just the range cannot be adjusted.

Thanks!

[Fab10]

On 7/30/2024 at 4:02 PM, Crabby said:

The shortcomings of the sim (ASOBO/Microsoft issue) related to the data that is available to create a weather radar are well known.  Just be aware that those that talk about how this radar or that radar works or should work, do not know what a weather radar is, how it works and what it should display at the various tilts/gains/settings.  They see green, red and yellow blobs on a screen and think "wow this works".  They are wrong.  

That’s incorrect, and somewhat presumptuous of you. Most users understand what a weather radar is and, more specifically, what it depicts. Most would want this facility replicated in the simulation.

However, we don’t have this, and it looks as if MS/Asobo/Meteo-Blue cannot implement a cheap enough version. We are left with Active Sky who may still be investigating this as a feature just as they did for FSX/P3D.

With that in mind, like many other users I would prefer to have something rather than nothing given how gorgeous the in-sim weather rendering is. Thus, I’d like to see all relevant aircraft feature some form of weather radar, albeit in its currently unrealistic form. Actually, I applaud INI Builds and PMDG for doing just this, along with all developers who have implemented the present Asobo WXR API.

Remember that XP11 and XP12 both had WXR in nearly every aircraft, and yet this too was a 2D top-down model, but with significant tinkering a 3D representation was provided. In fact, Laminar Research only very recently implemented a full tilt/gain WXR model in XP12.

I’m hopeful that such an API will make its way into MSFS 2020/2024. A payware study level airliner flown in the sublime atmospheric environment of MSFS 2020/2024 cannot be called complete without some form of WXR.

Would a pilot really fly under or over an area of yellow or red? Well, they might fly over such an area in VMC but definitely not under it. In all likelihood they’d skirt around the area which is precisely what the 2D WXR representation allows us to do.

The other question is whether being reliant (and happy-ish) with the present WXR API will impact the investigation of a properly simulated WXR; obviously, it would be easy to ignore that need if we are content with the basic API. Time will tell.

That said, please don’t make assumptions about the knowledge levels of other users. It’s invariably best to know your audience.