October 24Oct 24 Fuel flow is a lot higher in v1.2.7Speed on the FPLN pags jumps between current speed and -0.02META increases during flight, e.g. 1.2 after liftoff to 3.5 close to T/DDECEL wp not fixed on MANUAL leg, IF shows FCU ALT iso realistic altitude, even though correctly shown on VSDEFOB mismatch on PERF and FPLN page during descentturn predictions shown on MAP routingTRK change drawn at FAP, magvar issue?DES MACH .84, regardless of CRZ MACH Edited October 24Oct 24 by spottersim
October 24Oct 24 Author FixFL plan / simMach plan / simOAT plan / sim (°C)TAS plan / sim (kt)TAS from Mach + OAT (kt)FF plan / sim (kg/h)ΔFFTime vs OFP (min)Extra fuel used (kg)BEALE350 / 349.84 / .849−46 / −47493 / 4984986,550 / 7,439+13.6%−0.6+302MLF350 / 349.84 / .849−47 / −46491 / 4984996,511 / 7,595+16.6%−0.7+556KU78S370 / 371.84 / .850−48 / −48491 / 4964976,608 / 6,985+5.7%−1.3+949KU03U370 / 372.84 / .851−48 / −46491 / 4995006,474 / 6,942+7.2%−1.6+1,083ISN370 / 373.84 / .849−49 / −52489 / 4914926,276 / 6,783+8.1%−1.6+1,279AMENU370 / 373.84 / .847−53 / −54485 / 4884896,136 / 6,547+6.7%−1.8+1,504POPLR370 / 373.84 / .846−55 / −56482 / 4864866,093 / 6,499+6.7%−2.0+1,59157N090W370 / 369.84 / .845−57 / −58480 / 4824836,002 / 6,260+4.3%−2.3+1,803PIDSO390 / 375.84 / .847−48 / −48489 / 4954955,842 / 6,358+8.8%*−4.2+2,35860N050W390 / 373.84 / .850−48 / −48491 / 4974975,896 / 6,342+7.6%*−4.5+2,51859N040W390 / 371.83 / .849−46 / −44490 / 5005015,739 / 6,346+10.6%*−5.1+2,79958N030W390 / 371.83 / .847−44 / −44490 / 4995005,705 / 6,367+11.6%*−5.5+3,11856N020W390 / 377.83 / .835−47 / −52486 / 4844845,586 / 6,113+9.4%*−5.6+3,540CON390 / 384.83 / .838−60 / −62472 / 4744755,286 / 5,329+0.8%*−6.3+3,677MID390 / 383.82 / .831−61 / −61467 / 4724725,078 / 5,0790.0%*−6.8+3,715
October 25Oct 25 Plus one.Fuel consumption has definitely been an issue in my experience as well. Someone mentioned that increasing the Fuel bias from P03 to P06 in SimBrief solved most of the problem. I've also tried that without much success. Edited October 25Oct 25 by Bacsa Attila
October 25Oct 25 3 hours ago, Bacsa Attila said:Plus one.Fuel consumption has definitely been an issue in my experience as well.I made some measurements and comparations here, if you want to check, maybe it's helpful: https://forum.inibuilds.com/topic/41833-127-fuel-flow-increased-significantly/#findComment-101882
October 25Oct 25 1 hour ago, klusik said:I made some measurements and comparations here, if you want to check, maybe it's helpful: https://forum.inibuilds.com/topic/41833-127-fuel-flow-increased-significantly/#findComment-101882Thank you!I'll do a flight again today with P06 instead of P03, and see how it performs. 😉
October 25Oct 25 3 hours ago, klusik said:I made some measurements and comparations here, if you want to check, maybe it's helpful: https://forum.inibuilds.com/topic/41833-127-fuel-flow-increased-significantly/#findComment-101882Unfortunatelly, it does not seem to solve much of the problem for me. Right after setting up the FMS, I got the DEST EFOB warning and was way below the planned fuel profile.
October 25Oct 25 I flew a 13 h flight from RJTT to EKCH. At fuel factor P06 in simbrief, it suggested 91400 kg block fuel. I went for 95000 kg, and vacated the runway with 7000 kg FOB (at my destination on the first approach). In other words, this was about right, and I would probably have been in the drink if I had taken the default simbrief number. Edited October 25Oct 25 by Gungnir
October 25Oct 25 1 hour ago, Gungnir said:I flew a 13 h flight from RJTT to EKCH. At fuel factor P06 in simbrief, it suggested 91400 kg block fuel. I went for 95000 kg, and vacated the runway with 7000 kg FOB (at my destination on the first approach). In other words, this was about right, and I would probably have been in the drink if I had taken the default simbrief number.Eyup :-) I am used to take 30 minutes ATC reserve and 60 minutes Weather reserve anyways on each long flight (if possible), so that probably saved me before :-D
October 25Oct 25 2 hours ago, Bacsa Attila said:Unfortunatelly, it does not seem to solve much of the problem for me. Right after setting up the FMS, I got the DEST EFOB warning and was way below the planned fuel profile.It's possible, the fuel factor is just a general number for engine efficiency, nothing else. And it's kinda a workaround, the real fix is either fix the simbrief A350 profiles, or maybe better find why the iniA350 is such eater in 1.2.7 :-)
October 25Oct 25 2 hours ago, Bacsa Attila said:Unfortunatelly, it does not seem to solve much of the problem for me. Right after setting up the FMS, I got the DEST EFOB warning and was way below the planned fuel profile.Btw. DEST EFOB right after setting it up, it varies. It needs to have all step climbs programmed and the current winds for ALL flight stages uploaded/filled manually. What the "fuel estimation" by plane itself says? (INIT page, fuel area, you can fill up the number of let the aircraft compute some guess)
October 25Oct 25 8 minutes ago, klusik said:Btw. DEST EFOB right after setting it up, it varies. It needs to have all step climbs programmed and the current winds for ALL flight stages uploaded/filled manually. What the "fuel estimation" by plane itself says? (INIT page, fuel area, you can fill up the number of let the aircraft compute some guess)Yup. Step alts added and uploaded the winds via CPNY WIND. Same procedure as before 1.2.7. On the FUEL&LOAD page I set the values according to the OFP and I check that MIN FUEL AT DEST matches the reserve in the plan.I guess you are right. There will have to be a fix on SimBrief's or iniBuilds' side. Edited October 25Oct 25 by Bacsa Attila
October 25Oct 25 Staff Hi everyone,I've logged this with the team to review.Appreciate your patience! Kyle - Community Manager iniBuilds Ltd. | inibuilds.com
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