limbo Posted December 29, 2025 Posted December 29, 2025 Before I was banned from the Discord, I saw a community post about pitch rotation being completely wrong. Eddie said months ago that it was logged, yet nothing has changed months after saying it was logged (iirc) Claiming the flight model is “the best" or this aircraft is "ultimate" is not at all the case even multitude of updates later, performance and less WASM crashes sure, that is nice but the focus needs to be drawn back to the things that matter. Both the A350 and A340 suffer from completely wrong pitch rotation and a pitch-up jerk after raising the gear / immense pitch sensitivity last I was told this is from the transition to direct law to normal law but I doubt this would be the case at all. Despite the flight model being “verified by real-world pilots,” (which sorry to say most are actually affiliated with you guys and we know what happens when you hand out preview aircraft) the aircraft can levitate off the runway, float to the end, and climb at 100 knots even without stalling maybe that is terrible ground effect who knows, speaking from my experience. Even at MTOW, it will still rotate at around 2° of pitch according to the people in the discord For many of us complainers, this breaks immersion. While I accept whatever ini delivers in system depth now, the original promise of ultimate airliner experience hasn’t been upheld atleast in my opinion, and while I know you guys have to work around simulator constraints but compared to the likes of PMDG who have been trusted for decades and flying fenix then hopping into inibuilds airbuses it's a bit unsatisfying, it'd be great if a flight model overhaul could happen with maybe some digital flight data recorder stick aggregate to help with modelling flare physics or takeoff etc as I think having access to data like that could help improve a bit. Also, while cockpit videos may not be the best references it can be helpful a bit in simulating logic, you guys also haven't implemented proper retard logic, and it took you guys month to actually fix the RA callouts tonality, while all your staff without even looking at a video said but oh this is how it actually sounds, while all the airbuses you guys have ever made except the a300 and a310 had the exact same samples and voice for the callouts Stability and performance are decent, but the aircraft still sits in my hangar. I hope it gets fixed, but i'm not so hopeful Just note i'm not trying to come off as a pain here but it would be great to atleast have some clarity or if its taking alot of work if there is a possibility of flight model changes in the works, who knows?
IndiaAlpha Posted Monday at 09:27 PM Posted Monday at 09:27 PM This is true. The aircraft has definitely improved over the last year since release, but unfortunately, there are still these fundamental discrepancies that are being overlooked / ignored / unprioritised (I don’t know). Maybe iniBuilds doesn’t have other flight model data at their disposal right now, or their underlying data is partially incorrect. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to discredit iniBuilds; even Fenix needed several attempts before getting their flight model to what it is now. 1
BazAir Posted Tuesday at 10:51 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:51 PM To add to the above, in my opinion the auto-land function is also broken. I have several times brought it to inibuilds attention. It's a little better compared to when the A350 first was released but still no cigar. PMDG and Fenix has got this way over inibuild. It would be nice, especially in bad weather to get a smooth landing with the Auto-land feature in the A350 but the fact is on most occasions the aircraft pitches down and up and it's like a roller coaster ride on the glideslope. 1
limbo Posted Tuesday at 11:02 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 11:02 PM Honestly that isn't surprising with it being broken, and the community who don't even look at issues being reported in discord and here have the urgency to call this aircraft study level. This is nowhere near a ultimate airliner experience and yet i'm sure as the months go by no staff will respond at all even if I do that. --> @Eddie or @IniSteve it would be great if there was some clarity in these immersion breaking issues, no staff responses have been issued for these major issues yet anything minor any staff will answer. Maybe it could just be holidays that's fine but it's a bit disappointing none of these issues have been fixed, and a few have probably been logged in discord and left off the cards for a while.
IniSteve Posted yesterday at 02:36 AM Posted yesterday at 02:36 AM 3 hours ago, limbo said: no staff will respond at all even if I do that. --> [staff tags] it would be great if there was some clarity in these immersion breaking issues, no staff responses have been issued for these major issues yet anything minor any staff will answer. Maybe it could just be holidays that's fine but it's a bit disappointing none of these issues have been fixed, and a few have probably been logged in discord and left off the cards for a while. Rest assured. We do respond and we do track items but there is only so many times one can say "we will take a look at this" before it feels like we're just placating you. Despite that, again, the flight model is continuously being refined and looked at. The data we have checks out with what our subject matter experts say is correct behaviour but we field user feedback and try to strike a balance. Please also understand that updates to one facet of the FM can cause negative follow-on effects to the other states so we do our best to find an overall solution. With an aircraft as complex as the 350, this can prove to be a challenge. In any case, we are back from the holidays as of yesterday so this will pick up again and we'll continue to look at ways to make it as correct as possible. 2
limbo Posted 23 hours ago Author Posted 23 hours ago Appreciate the response Steve, hope these issues are however on the cards for following updates asap if able to for both the a350 and the a340 as I quite like the hand flying of the 340 but on takeoff it feels like a toy and that is the case for the 350 as well.
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