Missing SIDs/STARs compared to default KSAT

[Shelbster]

I jumped into a 747 today to try out the new AAU2 update and noticed that I was unable to select any SIDs. It turns out that it's not just in the FMC, when trying to select a departure in the world map, the only option is Direct. When trying to figure out what the issue might be, I ran into this forum post:

https://forum.navigraph.com/t/khio-sids-are-missing/3627/3

 

In trying to figure out if the scenery may be causing the issue, I uninstalled KSAT, and went back to the default scenery. Once I was back in game, not only were the departures available in the world map, they were also available in the FMC as expected. I'm not sure if that forum post may be describing the same issue at play here. Can this please get looked into? Please see the screenshots attached, the screenshot of the FMC is from inibuild's scenery, when using the default scenery, the SIDs appear.

 

On a side note, I also have the inibuilds KDAL, and that scenery seems to have all the SIDs/STARs

 

Edited June 24, 2023 by Shelbster
Adding context

[Deleted Account]

Heya!

I'm afraid this is more of a Navigraph issue rather than a scenery issue. I only don't get SIDs/STARs when I have Navigraph installed, without it i get them just fine.

[Shelbster]

Thank you for checking on that. I've gone an posted over on the navigraph forums to see if they're able to provide a resolution.

[Shelbster]

I reached out to Navigraph and the issue seems to stem from the fact that even though 13L/31R is closed for construction, they are still existing runways. Is it at all possible to re-enable those runways, or would it be possible to download 1.0.8 through iniManager since 1.0.9 seems to be incompatible with Navigraph's data?

[Fly2021]

I have the same issue with the KSAT iniBuilds custom airport and when I reached out to Navigraph I was told the issue is with iniBuilds. This does not happen with another iniBuilds custom airport that I also have installed, Detroit. Why KSAT and not Detroit? What happened with the KSAT scenery?  How is this going to be fixed, when both iniBuilds and Navigraph tell us to go talk to the other company?? Is there any communication between the two companies and was this even tested before it was released to its customers? 

[Fly2021]

I need to clarify that, so far, this happens with the FMC of the iniBuild’s A310, but not, for example, with the FMC of the Maddog. If this is a Navigraph issue, should this not happen with other aircraft’s’ FMC also?
 

This also happens with the GTN750 by PMS50 (every aircraft) and Navigraph told me it was an issue with the iniBuild’s scenery, not with Navigraph. 
 

Hope this helps provide a better picture of my experience with this KSAT custom airport….  Thanks much.

[Deleted Account]

Heya again,

we will (hopefully) deliver an update to the scenery this week fixing the issue 🙂

[Fly2021]

Hey gumbyger, I appreciate the feedback.  I love the airport (like all the other IniBuilds airports), and want to continue to enjoy it; thanks! 😃

[wickedbacon]

@Fly2021 
I have rectified the issue, and tested with latest AIRAC. All procedures are available once again, I will push the update by Monday, as there are a few more items I want to address as well.

[Shelbster]

Thank you so much for looking into this. Is there any news on pushing the update? 

[Shelbster]

Was there any update to this issue?

[Shelbster]

I submitted a direct request for support, but for visibility, this issue is now also affecting Ini's new A306. This issue does not usually bother me because of how the navdata is implemented in PMDGs 737 and Fenixs A320, but it is not souring my experience with Ini's new plane.

With default asobo airport:

With Ini's KSAT:

Edited December 29, 2023 by Shelbster

[LukeFF]

Any update on this? It's been six months since the last post on this issue.

Edited June 29 by LukeFF

[Shelbster]

Never heard anything back (even on the ticket I submitted), so today I finally figured out how to fix it myself. The small package I made just overlays the single runway on top of the scenery, just put it in the community folder. That small, single change fixes the issue.

Now if only I could figure out how to fix the small kink in the taxiway line on Golf right off of Lima.

zzz-ini-ksat-31r.zip

[richboy2307]

Hi all,

Apologies for the delayed response, however with KSAT we didn't have access to the source files so was difficult to implement fixes.
We provided this update regarding KSAT for clafirication on discord, and will share here as well:

 

Thanks!

[Shelbster]

Thank you for the update