1.1.0 - Cannot insert airways.

[Liamr685]

As per the title.

1.1.0, I cannot insert airways into the FMS.

I'm getting 'Out of range' or 'Airway/Waypoint Mismatch' Despite them being valid for AIRAC 2506.

I don't have this issue in my other, 3rd party aircraft, such as the iFly MAX.

This isn't the first issue I've had with the A350 and its issues with data implementation data from Navigraph.

All these issues have arose around the 1.0.8 update.

Here's the link to my previous issues with your inability to implement navigraph data into the A350.

 

 

The issues still exists, and is part of a growing list of issues surrounding navdata;

Cant enter airways

Improper route drawing

Improper approach drawing

Edited June 30 by Liamr685

[Liamr685]

Whilst doing a bit of fault finding;

KBOS/04R CELTK7 CELTK DCT FRILL DCT WHALE N93B SUPRY/M085F390 DCT 46N050W 49N040W 51N030W 52N020W DCT LIMRI DCT XETBO DCT EVRIN DCT INFEC DCT JETZI DCT AMFUL DCT OCTIZ P2 SIRIC SIRI1H EGLL/27L

That's the route im trying to insert.

 

The first issue is 

WHALE N93B SUPRY

When using 'Navigraph' selected in the OIS, i cannot use N93B from WHALE...Why?

Because there's 3 in the world, and only 1 has N93B from it. 

But for some reason, the way you guys at ini draw data from Navigraph, doesn't allow you to select the correct waypoint, it assumes its another, that doesn't have access to/from N93B

Now, i have used Navigraph hub, to update my core sim database...so in the OIS, i select sim default, which is fine, it also gives me access to AIRAC 2506.

I am now able to enter the route correctly, with no issues surrounding the airways issue.

Same issue with OCTIZ P2 SIRIC, selecting Navigraph in the OIS, I get 'Airways/Waypoint mismatch'
Swap to 'sim default' in the OIS...Works perfectly.

 

BUT, I now loose out on advertised functionality

Because I now have sim default selected in order to get a route correctly input into my FMS, I no longer have (off the top of my head);

MORA

GLS

And anything else that requires a navigraph subscription, to work in this addon.

 

You advertise the product as having extra features when you have a navigraph subscription...

But whatever method you use to implement that navigraph data via the OIS...Doesn't work...or at least hasn't since a few updates ago (I think around 1.0.8)

 

We're no longer getting what's advertised, nor are you acknowledging the issue...Wen will you address this?

Edited June 29 by Liamr685

[Liamr685]

Trying a different route, and to add some visuals.

EGCC SONE1Y SONEX L975 DESIG L603 LAMSO DCT EVELI DCT DOJOH DCT DODEN DCT NEGIX DCT DINKU DCT BESNI DCT GOMIG DCT GOLVA DCT OBUTI DCT LAKIK DCT TISAK DCT MAVIT DCT ARTAT UP975 ERGUN UL124 KONUK UM860 RENGI UT253 OTKEP UM688 RATVO M688 SIDAD P975 LONOS L703 HAYYA HAYA1R OTHH

 

Trying to enter that route...the first issue is from SONEX via L975 to DESIG.

 

With Navigraph selected

 

After hitting Enter after typing DESIG, I get this

 

 

However, if i swap back to Sim Default (which has been updated to 2506 via Navigraph Hub)

 

 

It works...

 

And I can continue to enter the whole route, with no issues.

But, as mentioned above, by reverting to Sim Default...I loose the additional features you're supposed to get with an active navigraph subscription.

[foliainfx]

19 hours ago, Liamr685 said:

Whilst doing a bit of fault finding;

KBOS/04R CELTK7 CELTK DCT FRILL DCT WHALE N93B SUPRY/M085F390 DCT 46N050W 49N040W 51N030W 52N020W DCT LIMRI DCT XETBO DCT EVRIN DCT INFEC DCT JETZI DCT AMFUL DCT OCTIZ P2 SIRIC SIRI1H EGLL/27L

That's the route im trying to insert.

 

The first issue is 

WHALE N93B SUPRY

When using 'Navigraph' selected in the OIS, i cannot use N93B from WHALE...Why?

Because there's 3 in the world, and only 1 has N93B from it. 

But for some reason, the way you guys at ini draw data from Navigraph, doesn't allow you to select the correct waypoint, it assumes its another, that doesn't have access to/from N93B

Now, i have used Navigraph hub, to update my core sim database...so in the OIS, i select sim default, which is fine, it also gives me access to AIRAC 2506.

I am now able to enter the route correctly, with no issues surrounding the airways issue.

Same issue with OCTIZ P2 SIRIC, selecting Navigraph in the OIS, I get 'Airways/Waypoint mismatch'
Swap to 'sim default' in the OIS...Works perfectly.

 

BUT, I now loose out on advertised functionality

Because I now have sim default selected in order to get a route correctly input into my FMS, I no longer have (off the top of my head);

MORA

GLS

And anything else that requires a navigraph subscription, to work in this addon.

 

You advertise the product as having extra features when you have a navigraph subscription...

But whatever method you use to implement that navigraph data via the OIS...Doesn't work...or at least hasn't since a few updates ago (I think around 1.0.8)

 

We're no longer getting what's advertised, nor are you acknowledging the issue...Wen will you address this?

Advertised functionality not functioning isn't anything new. But since you are using sim default instead of Navigraph, Navigraph exclusive features don't work because you're not using it.

Edited June 30 by foliainfx

[Liamr685]

38 minutes ago, foliainfx said:

Advertised functionality not functioning isn't anything new. But since you are using sim default instead of Navigraph, Navigraph exclusive features don't work because you're not using it.

That’s what I mean.

Before, I think 1.0.8, the Navigraph functionality worked fine, after that, is when I started having issues with it, and reverting to sim default fixed it, and yeah, as expected, because I’m having to revert to sim default in order to be able to fly this addon / be able to enter a route into the fms, I don’t get the Navigraph features. Which is frustrating.

 

This is all when entering a route manually, I haven’t yet tried to import the route directly from simbrief, whilst Navigraph is selected in the ois.

[Liamr685]

Further investigation / narrowing down...

This issue doesn't occur when navigraph is selected in the OIS & you import the flight plan from simbrief via requesting company route in the FMS, the Airways work & the route is drawn as shown in simbrief with none of the errors mentioned above.

However;

This issue only occurs when Navigraph is selected in the OIS & you enter a route manually in the fms or if you edit the route manually at any stage of the flight, after importing it via requesting company route.

 

This issue does not occur at any stage, when Sim Default is selected in the OIS.