angie23

I really appreciate this back and forth bc it's helped me to understand your stance a lot better. All due respect, I did say hot OR high airport. Not hot and high airport. "Takeoff on the longest flight the a340 can achieve from a hot or high airport". My flights always use real world weather so the temperature would have been between 18 and 24 degrees last week, since it was a redeye flight back to Europe taking off at dusk. Not 34 degrees Celsius at Mexico City but it's my fault for providing you ammunition to seek to disprove a typo I made ("MTOW") instead of trying to disprove the actual agenda I have made across two messages. The fact you've gone out your way to raise the temperature while setting the plane to MTOW at a high altitude airport to show you cannot takeoff at all, sort of proves more that you are fully aware of your shortcomings but either don't care or are not able to provide the correct modelling as you could have easily just provided a screenshot to show the climb rate of your aircraft from a hot OR high airport OR at the maximum permitted weight OR any airport at MTOW since I meant to have said the "maximum allowed weight" for my flight bound for Frankfurt. At other airports such as VHHH, I did load the aircraft up with enough payload to obtain MTOW and was able to achieve 3000 ft a minute when it should be closer to 1000. I will say that your climb rate after cleaning up the flaps at climb thrust is accurate but for some reason, your plane is getting to the air far too easy. I had to screenshot this thread and our back and forth last night to ask some ex colleagues whether the point I was trying to make was or wasn't clear enough and all understood my point: The Inibuilds A340-300 has a superior climb rate that is not representative of the real A340-300. This is a fact noticed by real airline pilots, including myself. Finally, yes I am passionate but it is not about passion sir. It is about having realism in the sim. I have flown (in order) ATRs, Fokkers, 767s, 737s and briefly, the 777 until covid and have associates who are F/Os on A340s. I find your claim that so called A340 pilots, stating your 2500-4000 fpm climb rate on long haul flights as "accurate" dubious since this is something I nor my friends have ever witnessed. The dirty config climbout should be between 800 and 2200 depending on heavy/light TOW and reasonable FLEX setting. It would be great to see you provide evidence of your claim of going by credible sources or at least, providing a side my side comparison video of a real takeoff vs your own replicated takeoff in sync and showcasing both real world and in sim PFDs. In closing, as an ex pilot myself, those videos of real life A340 takeoffs can be replicated in sim by simply taking the aircraft to it's extreme limit at said airport (zero wind component + higher temp to achieve aircraft's takeoff limits since we don't know the real world variables). Not beyond it to prove the plane cannot takeoff, come on brother ha ha. I understand that you won't do this but it is a suggestion because the least you can do is let simmers know your plain is not accurate. Also, the A340 does not get into the air with such shallow nose up authority but I won't bother stress this since you we seem to be getting nowhere with the excessive, big-twin climb rate. Keep in mind, every four engine jetliner has a much shallower climb rate than that of twin engine ones and for good reason. I appreciate your engagement. Best Regards

I don't think you understood what I suggested for you to try. If people are complaining to you, that your aircraft is climbing way higher than real life, and you don't know what variables the real planes in the videos affected it's takeoff performance, then load your plane up to the maximum. Takeoff on the longest flight the a340 can achieve from a hot or high airport and watch as your a340 climbs like a rocket. Then compare it with videos in which the plane in real life is only flying across the pond or at a distance less than 4000 nautical miles. I did just this and was able to climb out from MMMX at 2400 feet a min at MTOW. That alone is a massive indicator in itself. I respect what you have achieved and look forward to a future update of you making the takeoff performance mirror the real plane. It would be a shame to pretend that you do not know that the a340 is supposed to lumber into the air and not shoot up like a big twin.

If YT videos are not enough, why not simple load the Inibuilds A340 to MTOW, in summer conditions and replicate a real world takeoff which some pilots have uploaded to YT and see that the A340 in the real world, despite being lighter or at the very most, at MTOW, climbs out far less than what we are experiencing in the sim. That to me is pretty simple logic. Many are noticing this so wouldn't the proper solution be to investigate and sort it out instead of asking simmers to do your job? Would be nice to see which manuals you used for these figures because an A340 on a long flight doesnt come close to 2000 fpm after takeoff irl whatsoever.