ComputerJones Posted July 12 Posted July 12 OK, successful flight by some measure: Using TDS Garmin suite the NAV source works as expected. The default Garmin suite does not work with this aircraft in 2024. Autopilot pitch modes could use an actual explanation: I felt like engaging ALT hold wasn't actually doing that, it was engaging a pitch mode. My Bravo is sending alt set events when in ALT rotary mode, and that seemed to be affecting the pitch wheel (no animation though), so I was able to "hunt" for my altitude but it would not capture. Never got a green light on the FMA for "ENG" ALT mode. I could flip to VS mode (which is not an annunciated thing here) and it seemed to act like VS mode if I counted "clicks" so I don't buy any of this "custom autopilot" business they call out in their videos, it's doing default stuff in the background. Coupling that with the "lie of omission" on career mode stuff (which sucks anyway): I am downgrading from "disappointed" to "extremely disappointed." This is getting shelved indefinitely unless I can get a refund.
Eddie Posted July 13 Posted July 13 23 hours ago, SuperSixBravo said: This reminds me of the Spartan all over again. A rushed not functioning (basics) Plane and then we will have all the usual defensiveness over it rather than just fixing it! No defensiveness here! 🙂 We shall take a look at what is going on as soon as possible. I've forwarded this all to the team. Apologies for the inconvenience. 1 EddieCommunity Manager IniBuilds Ltd. | inibuilds.com
Denny Knepper Posted July 13 Author Posted July 13 Much appreciated. Although it did finally work for me, others that are having issues would like to have everything working as expected. Now, how about a Piper Navajo, Chieftan or Cheyenne in the future plans. Cessna and Beech get all the love. 😊
tclayton2k Posted July 13 Posted July 13 I managed to get an almost successful flight in today. Now that I know that know how to actually get the AP to engage, I was able to do a test flight from Honolulu to Kona. The only thing that that didn't work as intended was the glideslope intercept. It just flew right through that, maintaining altitude. Thankfully she's a sweet hand flier and the winds weren't bad. My only other concern is reverse thrust - it's practically non-existant. However... I have a fix for that - at least in MSFS (2020). And yeah, I know... "Warranty void if case is opened." But if you open the engines.cfg file and go to line 8, then change the minimum throttle from -0.15 to -0.25, you'll have both reverse sound and reverse function.
SuperSixBravo Posted July 14 Posted July 14 The pitch dial behaves weird. I have to dial it up to +8000 ft/min for it to climb at around 1000ft/min
cpschulz Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Hello, some observations to engage the AP. From cold&dark mode, the rocker switch springs always back in the OFF position on my system. At "ready for TO" mode on the runway, the AP works as expected. Regards, Claus-Peter
Denny Knepper Posted July 14 Author Posted July 14 That's because all three of the Avionics switches on the left wall are turned on when you select "Ready for T.O." The A/P will not work unless all three are on (i.e. in the forward position). If you start the plane from Cold & Dark, you have to make sure all three of those levers are on if you want the A/P to work. They did not make that clear in the checklist, apparently it just says "as required". 1
Cpt. Alvarez Posted July 14 Posted July 14 Hi folks, I can't get the AP to capture the target altitude. I'm using the PMS 650 and the Logitech AP panel, which both work, except for the altitude. It doesn't matter which mode I use. 'Alt Sel' is active, but the autopilot doesn't level off at the selected altitude, regardless of whether 'Auto Arm' or 'Manual Arm' is selected. I also disconnected the panel, but that didn't help. Otherwise, I have no problems. The AP follows GPS and heading (I haven't tried ILS and RNAV yet).
dresoccer4 Posted July 15 Posted July 15 23 hours ago, Cpt. Alvarez said: Hi folks, I can't get the AP to capture the target altitude. I'm using the PMS 650 and the Logitech AP panel, which both work, except for the altitude. It doesn't matter which mode I use. 'Alt Sel' is active, but the autopilot doesn't level off at the selected altitude, regardless of whether 'Auto Arm' or 'Manual Arm' is selected. I also disconnected the panel, but that didn't help. Otherwise, I have no problems. The AP follows GPS and heading (I haven't tried ILS and RNAV yet). there's an altitude select input? where do you see that? mine is just hold altitude or hold pitch
Cpt. Alvarez Posted July 15 Posted July 15 1 hour ago, dresoccer4 said: there's an altitude select input? where do you see that? mine is just hold altitude or hold pitch As far as I know, you can only do this using the GTN 650s “Autopilot” function (found under “Utilities”).
dresoccer4 Posted July 16 Posted July 16 5 hours ago, Cpt. Alvarez said: As far as I know, you can only do this using the GTN 650s “Autopilot” function (found under “Utilities”). ah yeah, that imo is kind of "cheating" as its not very realistic and a lot of the time doesn't integrate well in msfs anyway (since it's a work around). better to use the build in autopilot which works just fine
Cpt. Alvarez Posted July 16 Posted July 16 (edited) On 7/14/2025 at 10:37 PM, Cpt. Alvarez said: Hi folks, I can't get the AP to capture the target altitude. I'm using the PMS 650 and the Logitech AP panel, which both work, except for the altitude. It doesn't matter which mode I use. 'Alt Sel' is active, but the autopilot doesn't level off at the selected altitude, regardless of whether 'Auto Arm' or 'Manual Arm' is selected. I also disconnected the panel, but that didn't help. Otherwise, I have no problems. The AP follows GPS and heading (I haven't tried ILS and RNAV yet). Okay, I figured it out (partly). I can set the altitude on the AP panel, the F406 then starts climbing at 1000 ft/min on its own and automatically captures the altitude. I have no idea what I did differently from last time, but it works. 4 hours ago, dresoccer4 said: ah yeah, that imo is kind of "cheating" as its not very realistic and a lot of the time doesn't integrate well in msfs anyway (since it's a work around). better to use the build in autopilot which works just fine Well, then I have to revise my answer from yesterday: To my knowledge, there is no altitude select input in the cockpit. Edit: changed "altitude select button" to "altitude select input" Edited July 16 by Cpt. Alvarez
Lazare Posted July 17 Posted July 17 [F406 – Autopilot NAV Issue: Won’t Follow Any Route] Hi everyone, I’ve been experiencing a major issue with the F406 for almost a week now: none of the autopilot NAV modes are working properly. The aircraft won’t follow any navigation source—whether it’s a tuned VOR frequency, a GPS flight plan, or manually entered waypoints. Here’s what I’ve tried: NAV frequencies correctly set and identified NAV/GPS source switch properly selected GPS flight plan fully loaded NAV mode armed after stabilization Nothing works. The autopilot activates, but the aircraft just ignores the route—regardless of whether I’m in VLOC or GPS mode. At this point, I’d really like to know if: Other users are facing the same issue A fix or update is planned soon Because right now, the aircraft is basically unusable for serious flights or RP missions, and after nearly a week of troubleshooting, it’s honestly getting frustrating. Thanks in advance for any info or official feedback. — Cpt Lazare
ComputerJones Posted July 17 Posted July 17 I'm not hopeful, I had a support ticket going and ol dude referred to the pitch wheel as VS wheel. I am not fighting with someone over email about this particular autopilot system not working, I'll just learn a $30 lesson and move on. Perhaps I should use better terminology but when I say it won't "capture" I'm not talking about "preselecting" an altitude: I'm saying that hitting the ALT button does not engage ALT hold, nothing is annunciated, but the autopilot sure wants to pitch the plane around, and it definitely responds to default sim events like VS. "Our QA testers said it was fine!" they were wrong, that's a terrible way to respond to a ticket, too. Not a great start for my first aircraft purchase from these people lol
dresoccer4 Posted July 18 Posted July 18 just tried my first ILS approach with the AP and it picked up both lateral and vertical guidance, however it struggled to actually follow the vertical glidepath. it kept dipping below it and eventually i had to take over manual control as to not fly into the ground. anyone else had issues with ILS AP? 1
ARR2 Posted Monday at 04:55 PM Posted Monday at 04:55 PM On 7/18/2025 at 5:53 PM, dresoccer4 said: just tried my first ILS approach with the AP and it picked up both lateral and vertical guidance, however it struggled to actually follow the vertical glidepath. it kept dipping below it and eventually i had to take over manual control as to not fly into the ground. anyone else had issues with ILS AP? Have been trying ILS approaches in FS24 & FS20 at different airports, with no success. In neither case will it engage the Glide Slope when I hit GS & VLOC1 during the approach. Issue appears to be related to lack of an LOC button ?, as I can't get any 'morse' when dialed in to the ILS frequency on Nav1. ARR2
dresoccer4 Posted Monday at 05:23 PM Posted Monday at 05:23 PM (edited) 30 minutes ago, ARR2 said: Have been trying ILS approaches in FS24 & FS20 at different airports, with no success. In neither case will it engage the Glide Slope when I hit GS & VLOC1 during the approach. Issue appears to be related to lack of an LOC button ?, as I can't get any 'morse' when dialed in to the ILS frequency on Nav1. ARR2 mined picked up LOC and GS fine, just couldn't hold the GS. LOC worked as normal. strange yours isn't Edited Monday at 05:26 PM by dresoccer4
ARR2 Posted Monday at 06:48 PM Posted Monday at 06:48 PM (edited) 2 hours ago, dresoccer4 said: mined picked up LOC and GS fine, just couldn't hold the GS. LOC worked as normal. strange yours isn't Stumbled upon the VOR/LOC button on the 9 button AP panel, located at the top right. On my aircraft it is dead. On yours? AR Edited Monday at 07:34 PM by ARR2
ARR2 Posted Monday at 11:23 PM Posted Monday at 11:23 PM In case someone from Inibuilds reads this - could you have a look at activating the VOR/LOC button, top right of AP buttons cluster. Currently unable to do ILS landings on my PC & I think it may be because that button is dead. Thanks AR
Eddie Posted Tuesday at 11:56 AM Posted Tuesday at 11:56 AM 12 hours ago, ARR2 said: In case someone from Inibuilds reads this - could you have a look at activating the VOR/LOC button, top right of AP buttons cluster. Currently unable to do ILS landings on my PC & I think it may be because that button is dead. Thanks AR Hello. We'll take a look, thank you 🙂 1 EddieCommunity Manager IniBuilds Ltd. | inibuilds.com
JoKing Posted Thursday at 10:46 PM Posted Thursday at 10:46 PM You all have really helped me. I was having some what the same problem. I could never get the A/P to engage. Switch kept flipping down. Tonight I again will try the A/P. Was so looking forward to this and once I got it, no A/P. Vey disappointed so far.
Denny Knepper Posted Thursday at 11:20 PM Author Posted Thursday at 11:20 PM Make sure the switch on the left side of the cockpit is on. It controls the A/P power. That fixed it for me.
dresoccer4 Posted Friday at 12:43 AM Posted Friday at 12:43 AM 1 hour ago, JoKing said: You all have really helped me. I was having some what the same problem. I could never get the A/P to engage. Switch kept flipping down. Tonight I again will try the A/P. Was so looking forward to this and once I got it, no A/P. Vey disappointed so far. did you try hitting your keyboard A/P master switch? this did it for me. it kept flipping down as well until i did this
JoKing Posted Friday at 02:17 AM Posted Friday at 02:17 AM I got the A/P to work. But I have a couple questions. First, how do you change altitude once you are flying with the A/P on plus during the one flight how do I get a display on the GPS. Nothing I pressed got the GPS to come on.
Denny Knepper Posted Friday at 10:23 AM Author Posted Friday at 10:23 AM Are you using the TDS GPS (TDSGTNXi 750)? If so, you have to make sure it is included in the exclusions for your virus software. I had to do that when I was using Norton. Also, you may either have to manually start the TDSGTNXiFlightSimEXE.exe for it to show up, or make sure you start MSFS2024 in Administrator mode to get it to load automatically. I have to load manually because running the sim in Admin mode disables my Stream Deck. Go figure! If I select the PMS GTN750, I don't have any issue. 1
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