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Engine in full throttle after start up with lever on Idle


felipeturbay

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Hi guys, there seems to be a bug here. As soon as i inject fuel into the engine for the start up, the engines will go into full thrust. I have no control of it even if i move the levers to idle.

in the screenshot below you can see N1 at 100% and the levers are in IDLE (AP disconnected)

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Are you using the HC Bravo?  If so, go into the sim and check all of your bindings for the IAS position on the top left knob.  Apparently MSFS has seen fit to make some "suggested" assignments that cause this behavior.  I don't see it because I don't use the sim bindings, and this type of issue is one of the main reasons I use Axis and Ohs.  If you don't use the HC Bravo, disregard, but check your bindings and throttle axis assignments.  You may find they are double, triple or more assigned to other stuff. 

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Mark "Crabby" Crabtree AAL311 | PHL
I7-9700KF | 2070 Super | Honeycomb Alpha/Bravo | MFG Crosswind

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3 hours ago, Crabby said:

Are you using the HC Bravo?  If so, go into the sim and check all of your bindings for the IAS position on the top left knob.  Apparently MSFS has seen fit to make some "suggested" assignments that cause this behavior.  I don't see it because I don't use the sim bindings, and this type of issue is one of the main reasons I use Axis and Ohs.  If you don't use the HC Bravo, disregard, but check your bindings and throttle axis assignments.  You may find they are double, triple or more assigned to other stuff. 

Hi Crabby, many thanks for your feedback. Yes, I am using the HV Bravo. If I understand correctly I need to deactivate completely the speed knob in the bravo for this aircraft? 

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9 minutes ago, Steffen1030 said:

What helped me was simply deleting the “set autopilot airspeed hold” assignment on the left rotary controller.

that's how it works for me

Deleting this settings I guess would mean that the airspeed cannot longer be controlled directly with the HC Bravo right? This would be the first aircraft that I need to do this

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2 hours ago, felipeturbay said:

Deleting this settings I guess would mean that the airspeed cannot longer be controlled directly with the HC Bravo right? This would be the first aircraft that I need to do this

There was always going to be a "first" because of

1. the way that the sim-profiles work

2. the way that complicated aircraft work.

The two, from day one, were always going to be on a crash course of messing things up.  Couple this with the simulator deleting my profiles in one of the very first updates, spent 20 dollars and moved my control bindings outside the simulator.  I now only have view commands on my in sim profiles and a reverse command.  Everything else is safe and protected outside of the sim.  But wait!  There's more!  I can use voice commands to activate events in the sim.  I can access the more detailed events that planes like the A400 are capable of.  For example, I say into my mic "Align IRS" and all three of the IRS knobs move to the right place.  Alas, that is more trickery than needed I guess.  The point is, the in-sim system for controllers is far to simple to allow the full use of a controller like the HC Bravo and Alpha.  Sure, you can "use" is and assign something to every button on the controller, but can you actually use it.  

Couple that with the fact that Asobo just willy nilly filled up the controller profiles with what they thought you need and now you have to go back through each one and make sure things aren't cross controlled.  

Get Axis and Ohs or SpadNext and never deal with crap like this again, on any aircraft default/addon, past, present or future.  

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Mark "Crabby" Crabtree AAL311 | PHL
I7-9700KF | 2070 Super | Honeycomb Alpha/Bravo | MFG Crosswind

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1 hour ago, Shipwreck985 said:

Dealt with the same issue this morning. I just made sure that the knob on the BRAVO was NOT on IAS and i just switched it to ALT and all good for now. This is a bug with the Honeycomb BRAVO's IAS and the A300

I don't think it is anything to do with the HC Bravo.  It is simply sending an electrical impulse into the sim.  The sim "set autopilot airspeed hold" is the issue as it then talks directly to the plane.  Again, as planes get more complex and the developers need to use more complex and custom sim events, Lvars, Hvars, Bvars etc, the in sim assignment functionality can be
a. Not functional enough
b. Have "default" assignments that cause issues like is being seen

I cannot stress enough that, in my opinion based on way too many years of doing this, a happy sim is a controlled sim.  For around 20 dollars (two Starbucks coffees) one can take control of the controls.  I recommend Axis and Ohs because I use that.  SpadNext is just as good, though I don't know how much it is.  

I fire my sim up with a new plane knowing that I will not have any control conflicts because my in sim profiles are blank.   My first step with a new plane is assign the camera views I want (I don't even look at any provided views, don't care).  Next I use Axis and Ohs to create an out of the sim profile the way I want it to be.  

I have heard folks say they don't think they should have to spend the money or that they should have to spend the time.  Well, you will at least spend the time fixing things and time really is money.  AAO, or if I used it SpadNext, is a must have/must use add on for me.  

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Mark "Crabby" Crabtree AAL311 | PHL
I7-9700KF | 2070 Super | Honeycomb Alpha/Bravo | MFG Crosswind

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