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Hey man. May I recommend that you find like-for-like pictures for each comparison? You've got real pictures where the speedbrakes are deployed while in sim, the speedbrake is not. I suggest this bc even when I shared real world pictures along with their identical angle and everything in the sim, I still had people complaining that it was not perfect comparisons and that I used a phone instead of taking a screenshot lol smh. Above is a link to a fairly recent post regarding Inibuilds aircraft. I decided to share the links to all of my posts regarding the wings of the A300, A320N and A350. Check them out when you can. Finally, from the pictures you provided, I can see that the flap track fairings should be a little bigger perhaps. If you can, add more pictures please. I will check later on YT while in the sim.

Got a response from Eddie from Inibuilds who has informed me that he has indeed passed my feedback along. Inibuilds has so much potential. The sound is almost perfect and if it never gets any improvement, I will still love it (high end spool/between 50 and 70 %N1 losses that scream but the roar above 70% and the initial spool up to 40% is perfect for me. Everything about the systems, I love. Even prior to the updates. Now it is even better. My frustration with Inibuilds comes from understanding how good they are. If they can get the modelling improved to mirror the real aircraft, imho, once they correct the wings and horizontal stabilizer of the A350, that plane will become my No.1, pushing my beloved B77W to second place until Boris finally blesses us with perfect, superior soundpacks. Anyway, glad it's not the A340-600 with inaccurate external modelling otherwise I'd cry.

Just to recap. 1. When one glances at the side profile of the leading edge slats of a real Airbus airliner, one can clearly see they are rounded and sloped at the top but the lower part has a sharper curve before moving aft towards the trailing edge. The A350 is no exception: sharper corner below, easy long slope above -LEADING EGDE 2. The underside of the real A350 has far less curvature than Inibuilds modelled -UNDER WINGS 3. Horizontal stab is just thick for no reason. 4. One thing I forgot to mention is, the A350's wings do not droop to the naked eye. If it does, it is ever so slight. This is because, despite the super long wings, it is ridged unlike the wings of the 777 for example. Check out for yourselves. Yet, PMDG charges around the same and gets the wings thin and shallow, with Sharpe leading edge just like real life. Fenix did the same and got the trademark Airbus leading edge correct. It isn't only Inibuilds who have and does this regardless of the naked eye easily spotting the discrepancies between real life aircraft and what they created. Horizon Sim, FBW (A320 only as A380 is modelled perfectly, showcasing that FBW addressed it by listened to their customers). Headwind is another. Asobo is the worst of them all. How some people still flew their 320 NEO is beyond me. I hope Inibuilds understand that the wings of high fidelity a/c in a "Flight Simulator" should mirror real life as this is why we are all here. Aviation requires wings to get airborne and a means to propel it to sustain flight. The wings on theese moden day airliners are aviation ART. They are part of why we fell in love with aviation. Why butcher the wings of your own aircraft, release after release? . As of now, I'd still uninstall and get a refund if I could but I am hopeful that this developer will eventually upgrade their dev team and in order to obtain capabilities that match the amount their product pricing because Inibuilds has potential to rival Fenix and PMDG but whatever caused them to miss the mark THEY advertised to us by releasing with so many bugs and the sub-par external modelling is why I will not dare purchase another plane or airport until the next aircraft they release has addressed these concerns.

I can tell that the wing modelling of the A350 is far better modelled than their A300 and A310 however, it is just as bad as their A320. I Love their system modelling but the plane is far too unstable on approach. I could live with that. What I cannot live with is the fact the plane has not been modelled correctly. Look at the landing gear. It is supposed to be more spaced out. Look at the horizontal tail stabilizer. They even made that thicc as hell and I cannot for the life of me fathom WHY?

Can someone clarify what references iniBuilds is using for their wing modeling? The discrepancies in their A350, A300, A310, and A320 models are significant. The leading-edge slats are excessively rounded and thickened, creating a steep slope where they meet the engine pylon—unlike the real aircraft, where this transition is much shallower. In reality, the pylon sits almost straight under the wing before slightly sloping upward near the trailing edge. However, iniBuilds’ models exaggerate the curvature of the wing’s underside, making their aircraft appear toy-like. This issue persists across all their planes, despite them being paid products. A direct comparison highlights the problem: on real aircraft, the underside of the wings flattens progressively from the wing root to the tips, making the lower surface less visible as it extends outward. iniBuilds’ interpretation causes the wings to appear thicker than they should be, misrepresenting the correct aerodynamic shape. Why has this inaccuracy been overlooked?

"I was so looking forward to their A350 and A380 but I now have zero faith that they care or are skilled enough to get the most important attribute of an aircraft modelled correctly." This would have aged well had I not bought the thing. Flies really, really well and feels heavy, unlike the PMDG 777 but everytime I switch to external view I feel sad. Why can't inibuilds or why do they refuse to accurately model the wings and why don't more simmers speak up about this. Surely the wings of an aircraft is one of the main allure of our passion for aviation, right?

Good find. A while back, I made a post regarding the poorly designed wings of their A310, A300 and A320 NEO; rounded leading edge + too much curve under the wings which you can notice by looking at the line where the engine pylon mates to the wing, and compare sim to rl. I was hoping that Inibuilds would have improved upon their craft and produced accurate wing modelling for their 350 comparible to PMDG and Fenix's spot on renditions (especially since they charged similar prices to those two devs). Their aircraft are always nice to fly but after the novelty wears off, I never revisit them like I do the PM 73, 77 and Fnx 32 since Ini wings make them look toy-like.

It would help if you doublechecked yourself my friend. You do not need to reply on what another person provides. You are well equipped yourself to say, "hold on, let me check for myself", and actually spot exactly how horrid Inibuilds are modelling their wings. I do not mean to come across rude towards you but...perhaps I do not have the time and do not feel the need to invest in means to produce high quality screenshots of in-sim-footage. I have tried using the screenshot key on the keyboard but the outcome is always over saturated so I just gave up and decided to use a phone for ease of life. That said, come on....you can see clearly just like everyone else that the wings are atrocious. Had this A320N been the first, I wouldn't be disappointed. This is their THIRD plane...and still cannot get the modelling correct? *sigh* I was so looking forward to their A350 and A380 but I now have zero faith that they care or are skilled enough to get the most important attribute of an aircraft modelled correctly. I just needed to let the "where is your proof" folk in the Microsoft side of flight simming that the bulky, chunky wings from Inibuilds, Asobo, Headwind and Horizon Simulations are indeed real, unnecessary and hideous and all it takes is to load up one's sim, choose the Ini A310, A300, A320 (ini and fbw), Headwinds A339 and Horizons 787 then find real world pics of these a/c on one's phone and start identifying the major and easy to spot differences. 15 years ago, most of us passionate simmers were just grateful to have certain aircraft and were willing to ignore certain inaccuracies. It is 2024, how are some developers still giving us models which look like toy planes you can buy in a market with the chunky wings they are recreating. That is all I have to say on this topic. At least other real aviation enthusiast can now find a post or two on the dreadful bulky wings and inaccurate flap movement and know they are not imagining things even if the majority of flight simmers are too braindead, too young or too casual to notice or care.

1. That's good that you agree. But why not focus on that instead of taking my original posts as disrespectful? 2. "Too many"? Well, I tried via a previous post on this forum to get the attention of both Inibuilds and other consumers, without any pictures and was told to provide blueprints in very sparky, dismissive and rude tones in their responses. 3. I have come to learn over the past 15 years among Microsoft Flight sim communities that even when you make a short post and come across polite, the lowlifes always find a way to belittle and be rude towards you. So I am already prepared given my previous post on the Inibuilds forum was met with mostly rude comments all due to myself identifying a major flaw in the aesthetics of the Inibuilds aircrafts. Eventually, even the kindest person could become salty after many times trying to initiate or engage in polite discussion where there may be a difference of opinion and immediately be insulted or talked down to. I have had enough. Part of my saltiness also does come from the inability or lack or care from a dev I was becoming very fond of, proceeding to create these imaginary wings which the real life planes they are recreating do not have. So please don't be offended or be affected by my tone. It clearly was not directed at you. Just the devs and people like that other guy who responded claiming photos, screenshots and working eyeballs cannot spot faults.

This was disheartening to read. You confirmed that some adult human beings cannot process what anyone's working eyes can see. Pictures don't mean anything? Not useful? You cannot tell that Fenix got the wings modelled perfectly to the real plane while inibuilds did not? You watched pics which I provided.........and have or at least, should have the capabilities to go ahead and perform your own test to double check...yet will watch clear evidence showcasing how different, inaccurate and terrible the inibuilds wings are modelled on their A310 (the worse by a mile and on par with the FBW/Asobo A320), their A300 and now yet again, their A320?, At this point, I can bet the price of the A350 and A380 from Inibuilds to have misshaped wings also as this is plane No.3 and no improvement from them, and bc no FSim consumer has the time or effort to go as far as to scour the Internet or approach Airbus for "3D models", somehow we should accept the lack of effort on the part of a developer who charges for their addons and tell anyone who notices room for improvement that their eyes recieves them. That is what you're saying right? If you don't find my pictures/screenshots enough proof why don't you check for yourself? I'm so confused by this response.

Images of the real A300. Notice how the underside of the wings does not continue to slope down. How am I the only one, including the Inibuilds devs, whose eyes and brain work well enough to spot the massive difference. At this point, I doubt the passion some claim to have for aviation.